today that is usually a pretty good poll that shows romney with a very large lead in florida, i don't think he has that but they need to find a way so that going into the last two weeks with i the debates they hope helping them more they have got one or two or three paths to get to 27 at this, they are not if you talk to honest republicans they are not overwhelmingly confident that, you know, for months they said we would rather be us than them, i don't think you heard too many honest republicans saying that now but he think they have a chance if the next debate goes well, on the other side, their strategy is, their premise is we have got to lead, the electorial college is still very much tilting toward them and that they believe that their ground game is vastly enter superior, and early voting and the mechanics of turning people out on voting day they think are significantly better and i think based on what i have been able to learn that is not a crazy position to have and they want to go back to doing what they have done so well and i think you will see subterranean messaging on thi